James Carville and Mary Matalin were interviewed by Peter Hamby of Puck:
HAMBY: Like every Democrat watching the Biden debate in Atlanta, you knew it was over in the first few minutes. What was the first thing you did that night? Who did you call?
CARVILLE: Three minutes into the debate, I said, I’m taking two gummies and listening to country music.
Fuck it. And my phone was just lighting up with texts. I didn’t even have to look.MATALIN: Anybody who’s ever done this knew in five minutes that there was no coming back. Nothing. That’s the difference between guts and numbers. Guts told you what you needed to know. And that was a five-minute gut check.